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Once again, it is floating around that a 85mm f/1.4 Art is to be announced in 2015, and released in 2016. An ultra wide-angle zoom lens is also mentioned.

Since that 85mm f/1.4 Art is arguably the most requested Sigma lens, differentiating wishful thinking from real bits of info is the tough part — but we indeed expect another announcement this year.

Common sense would tend to something that doesn’t exist in the Sigma lineup, like a 135mm f/2. Sigma is quite proud of the recent 85mm f/1.4 EX and without a doubt updating it so quickly was not in the plans, but the demand has been too high to ignore it.

  • Sonar

    Why not make a 85mm 1.2 lens in the art line instead ? At half price of the canon lens. I trust sigma can pull it off, and ill buy it ASAP

    • Stefan Weilhartner

      i think a 1.4 will do if they can get a smooth creamy bokeh with it. look at the otus 85mm from zeiss – really nice performance and the 85mm art will hopefully reach the same performance.

  • Stewart Ross

    Yes, the 85mm f1.4 EX is something to be proud of. But for a working pro, it’s not quite good enough, in some cases. I own the current Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX, which is great, but I am longer for something that is as good or better than my current Sigma Art & Canon L series lenses. In my opinion, they couldn’t release an updated version quicker enough. I will be ordering one the minute they’re available.

    • Stefan Weilhartner

      i have to agree. the actual 85mm is goog but it would be nice to have a sharper lens at 1.4 like the 35mm art shows. not everyone can afford a otus 85mm 1.4. so i hope sigma can do the same thing for a more affordable price.

  • Konstantinos

    Hello everyone,

    I purchased a 35mm 1.4 Art this weekend and the Sigma representative in my city confirmed that both, the 85mm & 135mm Art lenses will be presented this year. Furthermore, he is a Sigma official sales trainer and he said he tested both lenses and was amazed by the results. He also said that Sigma has tough competition from cheaper lenses like the Nikkor 85mm f1.8G so they really must deliver something better than the 1.4 & 1.8 but also cheaper than the 1.4

    • true

      Did he say anything about 12-24 ? Is sigma going to update than lens?

      • Konstantinos

        Sorry, didn’t said anything like that… I would also love to have an ultra wide angle Art series 🙂

    • Stefan Weilhartner

      hmmm – it’s 29. of december and nothing has been anounced. i hope they still can sell 85mm 1.4 art in the year 2016

      • O.B.gene

        there’s a few hours left of 2015…I hope this Sigma sales trainer was right.

  • IsaacImage

    SO waiting for 85 Art !
    Please no rush , but make it killing lens with great AF capability

  • What about a 85-135mm f/2?! That would be a perfect compliment to the 24-35 and continue the more “realistic” 1.5x zoom range for f2.

    • Russell Ferris

      105-135 would be cool too

      • Jeffry De Meyer

        macro

  • NightPhotographer

    Both Nikon and Canon have very good 85mm lenses. Although the Canon 135mm lens is a good one, its design is pretty old and the Nikon 135mm lens is not good at all. I think this gives Sigma the opportunity to fill the gap by coming up with an art 135mm lens. While Sigma doesn’t have any 135mm lens in its arsenal, it’s weird that it wants to come up with another 85mm lens. Good luck to people who want to buy it, I wouldn’t even look at it.

    • true

      ??? Zeiss Otus > Sigma > Canikon. What’s bad wanting the second best thing / incredible value for money?

      • Dave_D69

        Both the Canon 85mm 1.8 usm and the Nikon 85 1.8g are sharper than the current Sigma offering. They also focus faster the Nikon is weather sealed and they are much cheaper… It needs to either come down in price or the corners need to be sharper. Why are you people buying this currently, what makes it “better” for you?

        • true

          I think the current model might have creamier bokeh than the Nikon 85mm 1.8g. The older (not art) Sigma 50/85 seem to share that.

        • MdB

          Yes, the f1.4 Sigma needs to be cheaper than the f1.8’s from Canon / Nikon :S

          • Dave_D69

            I said it needs to be cheaper. Not cheaper than the f1.8. If you think I said that you are an idiot…

          • MdB

            Well your comparison was with the f1.8’s, which you said were cheaper and then said it needs to come down in price, I (probably wrongly) assumed you meant to their level or below. How much cheaper does it need to be in your opinion? I am only going off how much it costs in my region and here it is about 50% more expensive than the f1.8’s. The F1.8’s may be cheaper but they are f1.8 and if sharpness is your only metric then those lenses may appear to be better value.

          • Dave_D69

            Yes price wise they are more than 50% cheaper. The Nikon is weather sealed (or at least has the gasket by the mount). Theoretically they are 2/3 a stop apart but measurments reveal the nikon is 1.9 and the sigma is 1.7. That’s a very small “advantage”. The nikon 1.8 focuses faster and more consistently. The corners are sharper on the Nikkor also. To justify the price the sigma has to be art quality to me. I’d rather buy the oem lenses for far less right now (Remember the f1.4 nikkor focuses slower than the 1.8).

  • true

    I hope the “ultra wide angle” zoom can make competition for Tamron. Instant buy if it goes anywhere close to Canon 11-24 territory.

  • blp

    watch sigma comes out with a 10-24 f4.5 lens to take back its thrones of the widest zoom lens.

    • Kirby Zhou

      I think it’s impossible.

      12-28/4 OS is attractive enough.
      14-28/2.8 OS is another wonderful choice.

  • 135mm f/2 OS please!!!!!!

  • Pawel

    That “wide-angle zoom lens” gets my attention. Was super excited when Sigma was going to do a wide angle prime but 24mm isn’t wide enough for me.

    • blp

      not just wide but ultra wide.

  • Dave_D69

    An art 70-200 2.8 OS with the zoom close to the body and killer optics would be perfect…

    • true

      You rose my curiosity. The Canon 70-200 have better magnification ratio @200mm than the Nikon newest (much sharper than older) 70-200, or the Tamron’s equally good (if not better) 70-200. Both Nikon and Tamron provide older version which have close or as good Magnification ratio as Canon, but they’re so unsharp wide open @200mm that it’s not worth it.

      If Sigma could address this, I bet EVERY Nikon user who has a 70-200 will jump to Sigma (well, most who have brains). Canon users are less threatened, but if the price is right then why would not they buy same performance (or better 😀 like in Tamron 24-70 vs Nikon case) for cheaper price?

      Since you mentioned it, I now really think they should do this lens. It’s one of the workhorses of many pro and hobby photogs out there. It’s one of the most versatile lenses out there.

      • Russell Ferris

        Nikon 70-135 f2.8 VR2 lol

        • Harry

          Better is if Nikon could produce the 50-150mm VR for FF with f2,8 should be enough and usefull , will be a good combo to used with 24-70mm VR

  • denton

    I have the Canon 85mm 1.2 II and I don;t see how Sigma can come close. I also have the 135mm 2.0 which is a fabulous lens. I would love a WA or 24-70mm 2.8 zoom.

    • Have you used the 85mm 1.2’s autofocus? There’s a lot to improve on there. Let’s not even mention how much more affordable Sigma’s version will be. And Rokinon’s 135mm outperforms the Canon – I suspect Sigma’s will too.

    • true

      Zeiss Otus > Sigma Art > others

  • Dadaim

    Nice, but we need much more a good 24-70 f2 or f2.8 with IS/VR. Or something similar…

    • Retrocausal

      Nevermind a 24-70mm f/2. It will not happen. Perhaps we’ll see a 35-70mm f/2 (or an equivalent short-range, fast aperture zoom), to accompany the 24-35mm f/2. Sigma will undoubtedly release a 24-70mm f2.8 with OS, to compete with CaNikon, head on. And it will be an amazing lens!

      In my humble opinion, of course.

      • Wishful

        I can’t see them releasing a 35-70 and a 24-70.

        • Retrocausal

          The 35-70 would be a niche, catering to the esoterics, just like the 24-35 (I didn’t see that one coming). Focusing on a 24-70 makes more sense overall, no doubt. I think the 24-70 and the 70-200 would be wise to focus on, especially now that Sigma have shown what they’re good for (wiping the floor with CaNikon in many aspects).

  • Dave_D69

    I’d like an Art 24-70 2.8 or a wider 16-whatever 2.8. The 135 would also be cool. The current non art 85 is too expensive for what it is. If there was an art version it would have to match that price to be worth it in my opinion.

    • Jeffry De Meyer

      it is as sharp at 1.8 as my nikon 85 1.8 is at 2.2 and at 1.4 soft as the nikon at 1.8.

      I wouldn’t have payed €900 for it, that is true $600 in a heart beat.
      Set of c primes for beginners would be neat.

      • Dave_D69

        Yeah well it’s over $900 in the US price is too steep performance wise. Given it isn’t much sharpen than the Nikon or Canon equivalents (not at all when stopped down). The oem lenses can be had cheaper and focus faster… It’s a no brainer to me. Anything newer would have to have perfect optics for me to buy it or lower price… Or faster focusing which will never happen…

        • MdB

          In Canon I have both the Sigma and the Canon f1.8. The Sigma is WAY better than the Canon, but obviously more expensive (but also f1.4 vs f1.8). The f1.2 is a LOT more expensive here than the Sigma (around 3 times the price) and the AF on the Canon is slower. The Sigma is a very decent alternative to the big two if you want an f1.4 85mm rather than just a f1.8.

  • Jeffry De Meyer

    just got my hands on the old 85, all they need to do to it is stick it in a new shell and call it art, so they might just do that

    • Retrocausal

      I concur! Stick the 85 in TSC!

      • Jonathan P Soffa

        Too much CA with the current 85mm

        • Retrocausal

          Allow me to rephrase: fix the current 85’s shortcomings and then proceed to stuffing TSC barrels…

        • MdB

          Which is common to pretty well all fast 85’s.

      • MdB

        Agree, but I hope that makes it lighter.

    • New shell, updateable firmware, and slap an ‘A’ on the side.

      Then focus efforts on a 24-70 f/2.8, the oft requested 135mm f/2, and give APSC sensors some love with a new 10-20mm (current one has much room for improvement) and 50-150mm.

      • Wishful

        Amen to the 10-20mm request! The 10-20 f4-5.6 has been discontinued, and the 10-20 f3.5 has been discounted. Could we see a 10-20mm f2.8 OS?

    • MdB

      And they may well just be doing that. The 30mm Art was essentially just recased.

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